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Nov
01
2009
World Series Game 3 Recap: Yankees 8, Phillies 5
Posted by Dash Treyhorn at 12:58 am ET 246 Comments

What happened?

Cole Hamels was ineffective in his third straight postseason start, as the Yankees won the third game of the series to take a 2-1 lead.

Who did what?

Cole Hamels (L, 0-1) allowed five runs on five hits in four and a third. He walked two and struck out three.

Jimmy Rollins went 1 for 4 with an RBI.

Jayson Werth went 2 for 4 with two homers (2) and two RBIs.

Pedro Feliz went 1 for 4 with a double (1) and a run.

Carlos Ruiz went 1 for 2 with a homer (1), and an RBI.

Andy Pettitte (W, 1-0) allowed four runs on five hits in six innings. He walked three and struck out seven. He went 1 for 3 with an RBI.

Johnny Damon went 1 for 5 with a double (1) and a run.

Alex Rodriguez went 1 for 2 with a homer (1) and two RBIs.

Nick Swisher went 2 for 4 with a double (1), a homer (1) and an RBI.

What does this mean?

Another start from Cole Hamels, and another wistful glance to another time.

Despite setting down the Yankees early and often, Hamels ran into trouble in the fourth inning, which was the beginning of the end for the struggling lefty. After allowing a two-run homer to Alex Rodriguez, he allowed three more runs to score in the fifth before he was pulled after recording one out in the inning.

And this time, it wasn’t a lingering injury or a botched play by the middle infielders that spelled his demise. It was his curveball. The same curveball that has haunted Cole throughout the season, the same curveball that he just can’t quite get a handle on, and the same curveball that he used sparingly during the first go-round in this game.

Notwithstanding the homer by Rodriguez, which could have been a double, Hamels was still pitching a very good game. He was locating this fastball and using his changeup with the same level of effectiveness that made him so dominant during the 2008 campaign.

But it was during the top of the fifth inning, with the bottom of the order coming up, that Hamels lost control of the game. After getting ahead 0-2 on Nick Swisher, Hamels threw a hanging curve on a 2-2 count that Swisher roped for a double to left. Two batters later, Hamels tossed a curve on the first pitch to Andy Pettitte, who promptly deposited the offering into shallow center to tie the game at three.

From that moment on, it was all New York, as the Yankees took the lead and never looked back. The Phillies bullpen, which has been a strength for most of October, gave up three more runs , while the offense failed to do much of anything off a mediocre Yankees’ pen.

But the issue in this game, as it’s been the entire post season, is Cole Hamels. As good as he has looked in all of his starts, he can never quite get over the hump and capture the same success that saw him win the 2008 World Series MVP.

To be fair, Hamels looked very sharp for the first four innings. Even after he gave up the homer to A-Rod, he recorded two quick outs to end the inning. It appeared to be nothing more than a small hiccup in what looked to be a very solid start from Cole.

Unfortunately for Cole, the offense couldn’t bail him out, as they did in his previous two starts against the Los Angeles Dodgers. They took the early lead against Andy Pettitte, but any signs of life from the bats disappeared after the fifth inning, as they couldn’t get anything going against the Yankees bullpen.

As bad as this game was, the reality is that they are only down by one game. And if there is one thing that his team is good at, it’s rallying after a tough loss.

What’s next for our heroes?

In game four, the Phillies send Joe Blanton (0-0, 4.66) to the mound to take on C.C. Sabathia (3-1, 1.52).

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246 Responses to “World Series Game 3 Recap: Yankees 8, Phillies 5”

  1. Swift says:

    He was handed a three run lead, and couldn’t frontrun his way to a god damned victory. I place this loss, 95% of it on Cole Hamels inability to pitch a fucking game. He’s just terrible, and he cannot be given the ball again, the rest of this season.

    Cole Apologists, waiting to hear it.

  2. Andrea says:

    Game 4 should be riveting.

  3. Yanks in 5 says:

    What happened? I thought the Philly crowd was going to intimidate the Yankees!! HA HA HA HA HA

    Just back from the game! It was awesome. Rollins was right. PHILLIES FANS ARE FRONT-RUNNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A lot of people left starting in the 6th inning and on through the 8th inning. What’s your excuse? I thought most union jobs don’t have to work on Sunday.

    Nice of the Bleachers Creatures to take over section 142 in left field. I wonder how they got all those seats together! Could it be that loyal Phillies fans sold those seats? I thought they didn’t happen in Philadelphia

    The Phillies were lucky to face Tampa last season. Now they are playing the varsity.

    THE YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. Andrea says:

    And here we go…

  5. Swift says:

    Cole Hamels laughing it up, and smiling about tonights loss. What a fucking asshole, get rid of him.

  6. Phils Phan says:

    Not worried. CC cannot beat the Phillies. They’re in his head. 3-2 Phillies heading back to that dump that is the Bronx.

  7. Swift says:

    @Phils Phan: I hope they celebrate in New York, in front of those fucking piece of shit Noo Yaukas.

  8. Yanks in 5 says:

    I guess Jimmy Rollins was wrong too! It’s too easy to predict stuff against the Mets. But this is the NEW YORK YANKEES.

    Can’t wait to celebrate World Series title #27 on Monday night!!!!!!!

  9. Andrea says:

    @Swift: Just saw him laughing and his comments. I’m done with him. Get the fuck out of Philly.

  10. OutlawPete says:

    Hamels: “I can’t wait for this season to be over”

  11. Swift says:

    I want to see Cole’s postgame interview on theFightins… so that everyone can see the remarks he’s making. Disgusting… time to send Queen Cole to another team.

  12. Yanks in 5 says:

    I loved all the “Let’s Go Yankees!” chants at the end of game. No one there to boo us down.

    Citizens Bank Park = Yankee Stadium South

  13. Swift says:

    @Yanks in 5: Yanks fans were cheering at CBP… we get, anything else? Otherwise, you’re just wasting space on this page.

  14. His Dudeness says:

    Generally speaking I’m not a fan of Ricky Bo on Post Game Live, but he really nailed it when he called Cole out. What a terrible thing to say to the media after a disgusting game. Girardi should have had to go to his bullpen in the 5th inning the way Pettite was pitching, but it ends up being Cole who melts down. What a terrible, disgusting loss.

  15. Phils Phan says:

    @ Yanks in 5:

    Not Yankees Stadium South. Not enough kids with purple hair, dudes who just got out of prison for the fourth time, twenty year old moms and their four kids.

    /Rocker’d

  16. Yanks in 5 says:

    Swift: No one has answered why the bleacher creatures took over section 142 in the left field bleachers under the scoreboard. I guess Jimmy Rollins was right, you’re FRONT RUNNERS!!!!!!!

  17. Swift says:

    Uhuh… right, we’re front runners. Thanks, we get it… can you please go face fuck yourself with a revolver. Thanks…

  18. Phils Phan says:

    @ Swift:

    Don’t worry about it. He masturbates to a painting of Alex Rodriguez as a centaur.

  19. Erin says:

    Wow – Cole just buried himself with that interview. He wants to go home and it shows. Hope you are ready for the backlash of those statements, Hollywood.

  20. Ajay says:

    Can we please ban Yanks in 5 somehow?

  21. Swift says:

    @Phils Phan: Probably… the best thing to do to a troll is ignore them, I broke my own rule… not again though.

  22. Yanks in 5 says:

    Swift: But why did all the Phillies fans leave starting in the 6th inning and all the way through the 8th?

    Thank you to Cole Hamels (pu$$y) for helping A-Rod break out of his slump. The Yankee bats are now alive and the Phillies season ends on Monday night

  23. Yanks in 5 says:

    I’ve had enough fun.

    Just wait until tomorrow. Giants crush the Eagles and the Yankees take a 3-1 lead. Wouldn’t that be the worst day in Philadelphia sports history? It’s going to happen whether you like it or not?

    Sweet dreams!

  24. Phils Phan says:

    @ Swift:

    No sweat. I foresee big things from Big Joe, and CC again being a mental midget and folding to the Phillies. Of course, losing will do that.

  25. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Cole can fucking go. He’s soft.

  26. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Seacrest, Out!

  27. MP says:

    Swift, you are dead on. When we win this thing, I don’t want him at the parade. We all knew this series would be long, and we can def bounce back tomorrow. I am absolutley disguested with Hamels. When I saw him laughing, I was like okay ots our laid back attitude, but that comment about wanting the season to be over that was it for me. He is clearing coming from the Moyer school of thought of “me first, team second”. I am at a loss for words about him. He needs to go.

  28. Yanks in 5 says:

    Some last words before I go, courtesy of Cole Hamels:

    “I can’t wait for it to end. It’s been mentally draining. It’s one of those things where you can’t wait for a fresh start.”

    “A-Rod is awesome”

    “I did my job tonight”

    How much do the Phillies pay Hamels?

  29. OutlawPete says:

    That’s it. Hamels has to go. You picked the wrong city to fuck with buddy.

  30. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Hamels makes me puke. Man up boy!

  31. Fink says:

    Hamels is a pantywaste, plain and simple. Always complaining about phantom injuries. The chiropractor thing. Refusing to pitch on 3-days rest if last year’s word series went 7 games. His histrionics on the mound, rolling his eyes at teammates. The guy is a pussy. Any money that they were allotting to sign him to a long term deal should be spent on locking up Cliff Lee. On the bright side, I doubt that Cole will be getting any more endorsement deals or doing the banquet the circuit this off-season, so maybe he’ll actually show up to pitch next year. Wussbag!!!

  32. AZH says:

    Guys, yeah, Hamels blew, but has anyone seen a rally in the past three games? There’s been the occasional home run, but I’m growing sick to my stomach watching 1-3 pitch at bats. Anyone watching the Phils this year knew we weren’t going to shut down folks in the playoffs, especially the Yankees, so our bats had to keep up. Where’ve they been? That’s the reason we’re down 2-1.

  33. OutlawPete says:

    The only thing saving Cole now is a WS victory

  34. Gabrielle says:

    Hamels commenting postgame that he was content with his performance REALLY pissed me off…

    Howard and (although i wish him to be the future father of my children) Utley did nothing, and I dunno what it’s gonna take to wake em up. Perhaps it’ll be ME AT THE GAME TOMORROW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, still not over the shock that I’m fucking going to be there tomorrow night. :) :) :)

    And while I’m excited to be at the game during the World fucking Series, it’s just been too long since I’ve consumed a SCHMITTER aka the most amazing sandwich ever invented, so much that it should honestly be its own food group.

    And while I’m writing a novel, I’d like to add that Yanks in 5 obv has made thefightins.com his homepage. Just sad.

  35. Leave it to a Yankee weasel to come on here after its team won and spread a bunch of nonsense but when they lost, he/she/it was no where to heard from

  36. Andrea says:

    “It” was too busy shoving a dildo up its ass. ;)

  37. Chris982 says:

    That week off between series totally took Howard out of his groove. He’s back to swinging at all the junk he was laying off of so well the past few weeks. Hopefully he can land a few good swings tomorrow and wake up.

    God damn I hate Hamels so much right now…not even for his performance as much as those comments…seriously, how do you come out and say that stuff?

  38. Phillies = Mediocre Team says:

    Funny how the tables turn when the Phillies are playing a legit team in the playoffs for the first time during their run. Utley, Howard, and Ibanez are being exposed, and the Yankees just took a shit on your pitching staff. I wish the Dodgers could have represented the NL, at least they would have sent the series back to New York.

    BTW…Philadelphia showed what a fraud of a baseball town it is tonight. 20k Yankee fans, and most Phillie fans were in the parking lot in the 7th inning. Go boo Donovan McNabb some more you one-sport fucking pieces of shit.

  39. Cole Hamels says:

    Hey, I did my job, did you see my bunt?

  40. @ Phillie=Mediocre Team

    Stop with saying that there were no legit teams in the playoffs….if you make the playoffs you are a legitimate team….and hey Yankee fucks the Series is 2-1 I could see talking this if it was 3-1 but its 2-1 and even if it goes 3-1 Cliff Lee is pitching Game 5 so guess what it probably is going back to Yankee Stadium.

  41. A-Rod's Juice says:

    You really think there were 20,000 Yankees fans there? Stop substituting the number with how many times you jacked off to a picture of the Juice master & Jeter turning a double play

  42. Chase Mutley says:

    I’ve never understood why fans of other teams hate Shane Victorino. Whenever I speak with baseball fans outside of Philadelphia, it’s always “I hate Victorino” but they never have a reason why. Shane’s a good guy, funny, plays the game well, doesn’t cause trouble, etc.

    Then last night, watching Nick Swisher give a pre-game interview, I get why people hate Shane. Sometimes you just can’t stand someone’s face. Their stupid fucking face and the stupid fucking way their mouth moves when their stupid fucking words come out of it. Nick Swisher could have been the starting point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves or a bottom of the rotation guy on the New York Mets AA team before last night but watching his gay haircut, dip lip, and bag-of-rocks intellect on TV, I can’t think of anyone I currently dislike more.

    As an aside, has anyone noticed that every Yankees troll that comes on this site always wants to talk about jobs? Who does that? You want to bust on Philly for having “union jobs?” What sort of successful, accomplished, white collar executive posts in the comment section of a baseball blog at 1:30 in the morning? That town is so bonkers. The people that run that city, the people that fuel their local economy, are from like Japan or Ohio or California. The natives drive taxis, work at their dad’s pizzeria, start shitty bands like Biohazard and post things like “Stay Classy” on the internet.

  43. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Swisher’s a freaking clown

  44. rr says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Just when this site was blasting New York for leaving the game early, I couldn’t help but notice the empty seats in the Diamond Club behind home. By the end of the 8th, I think I spotted an entire row that was empty. If that’s not the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is. Classic!

    Yeah, CBP was a real “bloodbath” last night, huh? Where the hell were your shit rag rally towels? Where were the loudest fans in baseball? I was extremely unimpressed with the Philly fans, as was the rest of America. Hell, even Fox called them out on it. Pigeons!

    Blanton v. Sabathia tonight? ha! Yanks win tonight and the series is as good as over.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  45. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Damn, Yankee fans sure come out of the woodwork

  46. rr says:

    I love how everyone on this site has done a 180 degree turn on Cole Hamels. Yesterday, it was “He’ll dominate” or “I predict the 2008 Cole shows up.” Look at the comments now. Man, I love it.

  47. Luis A. Rosado says:

    To rr, Cole fucked up, you win. Happy?

  48. Yanks in 5 says:

    I am a gay retard

  49. RR says:

    I like to jerk off to A-ROID

  50. ryan302 says:

    nobody looked like they were playing with any heart…

  51. rr says:

    Hey, it was only game 3, there is still plenty of baseball left. If the Phils win tonight, we are right back to square one. But I just love how the people on this site act. Your team lost and your World Series MVP pitcher sucked balls, and look at the comments on here. hahahahahahahahahaha

  52. rr says:

    Heard that CBP was renovating for 2010. They are ripping down “Harry The K’s” and replacing it with “Howard K’s.”

    aaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahahahahahaahahaha

  53. Brian says:

    RR conveniently forgets how panicked the Yankee fans were after game one on their site…

  54. RR says:

    My team is finally in the WS after blowing a billion dollars to have underachieving teams the past 8 years…whooppppeee–I am so retarded!

  55. Crane Kick says:

    Cole Hamels = punch in face.

  56. Crane Kick says:

    Dear rr,

    I slept with your mom. It sucked. I’ll bounce back at some point. But seriously, she stunk. Literally. And figuratively.

    Love,

    Your mother is a slunt

  57. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Cole Hamels = kick to the balls

  58. rr says:

    Dear Crane Kick,

    Awesome job, bro. And next year, when you turn 9, we’ll take you to Yankee Stadium for your birthday.

    RR

  59. Brian says:

    And how much does a soda cost for that 9 yr old, $7.50?

  60. rr says:

    I see the excuses are starting to surface…..”waaaaah, you spent a billion dollars, waaaaaah.”

    What has your $54 million dollar man done for you this World Series? Nada! But he is going to rename that shithole of a restaurant out in left field to “Howard K’s” next season.

  61. rr says:

    Brian,

    Soda is $4.50.

    RR.

  62. Chase Mutley says:

    Dude, can you at least let like a half hour go in-between your responses? Please?

  63. Crane Kick says:

    Dear rr,

    Your mom. Slunt. Do the math.

    - CK

  64. rr says:

    Alright ladies, I’m “outta herrrreeee” for the day. I’m going to go watch your fat coach with degenerate sons contemplate when he can play his convict against the Giants, and then I’m going to head over to CBP to watch another robbery in progress.

    See ya tomorrow, ladies.

  65. rr says:

    Dear Crane Kick,

    I did the math. You’ll be 9 next year.

    RR

  66. ryan302 says:

    hey rr why dont you meet up with a few of other people that frequent this blog while youre out?

  67. caitlin says:

    cole hamels makes me sick.

  68. Luis A. Rosado says:

    I hope Eli Manning breaks a leg today; literally

  69. Last week, BEFORE the World Series started, Mitch Williams said (on MLB Network) that he would chose the Phils rotation as: Lee, Martinez, Blanton and Happ. Hamels had given up 11 runs in 24 innings pitched and that is NOT acceptable for a starter in the World Series.

    If Hamels devoted as much time and effort to his pitching as he does to his product endorsements, he’d be great. Obviously, last season was a fluke and THIS is the real Cole Hamels. He’s just “a pitcher”.

    Go Phillies.

  70. Griswold says:

    I agree. I am thoroughly pissed off at him.

  71. greenman! says:

    I wouldn’t trade Hamels yet, yeah I’m pissed at him too but he was too good the year before to just let go. Who knows he could still shape up, but then again the asshole does have a picture of Fenway on his blog so maybe we should trade him.

  72. dlhunter says:

    GOD IS DEAD. And the Phillies lost. Oh, and halloween sucked.

  73. dlhunter says:

    But I should add that Luis A. Rosado is still with us, and that makes life worth living.

  74. Mand(i) says:

    i never wanted hamels to start a game in the series. i woulda benched him and started happ or blanton. once again charlie’s loyalties kill us. if theres a game 7 hamels better not be starting. he doesn’t deserve it. i am thoroughly pissed at hamels and charlie.

  75. bigmyc says:

    Chase Mutley…you arrrrre the maaaan. Again.

  76. yes says:

    Not much to say about this. My predictions for this game looked good to start, and then Hamels went to shit and the offensive surge in the 2nd inning turned out to be a fluke. If we don’t get it together today, winning this thing is going to take a miracle, and getting it together at this point means more than one guy on offense steps up on any given night. If we’re lucky, Sabathia could decide to extend the Halloween spirit and show up as NLDS-Brewers CC tonight, but I’d say that once again, all the pressure is on the offense to back the reputation that got them here and set us up for a legitimate chance to go back to NY and win it all.

  77. Griswold says:

    Lets just hope there isn’t a game 7 and jimmy’s prediction comes true. Then we wont have to worry about him getting another start.

  78. will.H says:

    i saw rudi guliani on the concourse and i slapped him in the chest (not hard). true story

    now lets man up and win tonight.

  79. Heathcliff Slocumb says:

    To all those who though Howard was impervious to the SI curse, I fart in your general direction.

    SI curse is alive & well. First Hamels, now Howard. It’s the athletic kiss of death.

  80. kevin Sefcik says:

    Anyone See the headline under the World Series tab on ESPN, Is Philly Fading Fast? What horse shit lose two games in a best of seven and they really start to show their true colors. This Phillies team is one of the most resilient teams in recent memory, the series is not over by a long shot. You gotta think that the heart of this lineup is gonna do something, Howard is a clutch player. Shane can’t go up there trying to crush the ball, right now he has Jimmy Rollins syndrome. Take pitches we did it at the beginning of the game and show incredible patience. But why after 5 innings does that button switch and they start swinging at everything under the sun?

  81. Gabrielle says:

    I feel like it’s Christmas Day, no lie…

    If anyone else will be at the game tonight, let me know.

    I’m predicting GREATNESS! :) :) :)

  82. Phils Phan says:

    @ Heathcliff Slocumb:

    Then why the hell is Brett Favrvvvrrrvre still alive?

  83. Luis A. Rosado says:

    dlhunter, you are something else. I don’t even know what to say.

  84. jessem says:

    Not sure why people think fans left the stadium, they probably just wanted to get out of the cold rain and stand under cover. I was really happy to hear how loud the crowd get last night even while down. Far and away brought more energy than NY. It’s just a shame we will have to win it there.

  85. Lonzilla says:

    I’ve had it with Headcase Hamels, this whining prima donna is so NOT a Phillie. I hope Amaro will be on the phone after the series trying to trade him to make room fro Drabek.

  86. Chase Mutley says:

    The Birds are doing their part to take some of the sting from yesterday away.

    PS. Anyone who says “Trade Hamels” is an idiot.

  87. bigmyc says:

    Yes…Drabek…Happy thoughts.

    Uh, how’s that Giants game workin’ out for ya, RR and the other frontrunning NY fans?

    Foreshadowing of the stompin’ the Yankees’ll get from the Phils and Blanton tonight.

    Be afraid, Yankers…be very afraid. See, this World Series is only halfway thru….

  88. bigmyc says:

    Also, Umenyiors demonstrates who stupid the New York sports culture is; in a game where his team’s head is getting kicked in, he gets up after a single good play and mocks the Eagles with a wing flapping getsture…and then gets hurt the next play chasing Donovan in vain. Way to represent, you stupid fucko. At the half; Eagles 30 Giants 7. This is no time to celebrate, son.

  89. Nick says:

    According to ESPN, the Yankees have already won the World Series. I think they forgot that it’s not a best of 3

  90. bigmyc says:

    Mutley, you might be the man, but you have to understand those who want him gone. What he said and how he’s been behaving is getting ridiculous. It’s like he’s not in tune with the rest of this team. He’s given so many free passes but it’s getting time to pay the piper.

  91. Joe Pa says:

    Remember in 2003 when the Yankees had a nice 2-1 lead in that a World Series against a National League East team? How did that end for ya?

    Phillies in six.

  92. Dem Leez says:

    Where can i find Cole’s postgame interview online?

  93. bigmyc says:

    Even though I understand that Cole is being honest with the media and himself, but he should at least try to say the “right things.” I really think that he’s become Mr. Stroebel. He’s been primped and preened just like that little shitty dog of hers that she makes him carry around in a stupid back pack…worst part is; he probably doesn’t see a problem with it.

    This clash of personality and lack of results is what turn Phans against his Mr. Softee ass.

  94. Swift says:

    @bigmyc: Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  95. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Brabdon Jacobs and Osi Umenyiora can eat shit

  96. Luis A. Rosado says:

    *Brandon

  97. Chase Mutley says:

    @bigmyc

    I completely understand why everyone is PISSED at Cole, I’m pissed too, but trading him? For what? I would rather Cole spend the offseason learning how to throw a curveball than trade him. He hasn’t had a good season, it happens. Cole rights himself and you have a rotation of Lee, Hamels, Haap, Blanton (?) and Drabek next year. That’s the best in the National League.

    Home grown talent that won you a World Series isn’t something you should be so quick to give up on after an off year. He showed you last year he’s mentally tough and cool under pressure, he’s obviously just frustrated after having a mediocre year. He’s not someone like Ollie Perez or AJ Burnett where when the wheels start to come off it’s havoc, starts walking guys, whatever. His fastball and change are still fine, it’s just when he starts trying to mix that curve in in middle innings he becomes very hittable.

  98. newyawker says:

    Rollins got one thing right — the series will only go to five games. Bombers in five and the next two won’t even be close. Good night, Frillies. You heard it here first.

  99. maxL says:

    Oh Tug, at least you’re not as bad a troll as these idiot yankee fans.

  100. bigmyc says:

    Mutz, I don’t think a trade is what we need either, but people are sick of his thinly veiled pissy attitude, not necessarily his level of play. You need to understand this.

    So, how does Ruben and Cholly go about fixing this? Well, Cole just needs to find what made him so competitive in sports in the first place and I guarantee it wasn’t to succeed in order to marry a Survivor also ran, talk about adopting African babies like psuedo-celebrities, carry around little lap dogs in a fanny pack slung over the shoulder at a fireworks display, pose in numerous cosmopolitan type glossy mags in various fashion settings and then talk about how mentally exhausted and “over” he is with the season while the Phillies and an entire legion of dedicated and loyal Phils’ Phans needed him to muster his considerable ability and throw one good game which he ended up not doing.

    Yeah, I don’t think that is what got him started pitching a baseball. But, nevertheless, he has degraded to this. Many Phans are just not encouraged but these developments. They just don’t think he’ll come out of this bitch/diva/Heidi lapdog tag that he’s doing absolutely NOTHING to dispell…and that’s just OFF the field.

  101. Will says:

    I’m a Yankee fan and I think I have a little different perspective on Hamels then most of you. I know he’s been struggling but I don’t think that’s reason to trade him off. As Chase Mutely just said, home grown pitching is hard to come by. Take a look at a guy like Phil Hughes. Hughes was dominant all year and is crumbling right now. I think with young and relatively inexperienced pitching that the pressure gets to them. And I know Hamels was lights out last year but this year he had the expectation to perform the same he did last year and that’s probably added weight on his shoulders. I wouldn’t trade him anytime soon, he’s still a great front end of the rotation starter.

  102. Tug Haines says:

    I’m with Will. A trade wouldn’t be a great idea.

    I’m thinking more along the lines of cremation.

  103. bigmyc says:

    Will, ‘preciate the outside angle, but once again, you are missing the point here.

    Hamels, while his talent is obvious, his character is polar opposite of what the Philly Phans would like to see. Winning cures all, but when you are not doing this any longer coupled with a casual sense of entitlement, that won’t phly in this city…or at least with the sports phan base.

    The issue is not his ability and his lack of current success. The issue is mostly about who he is or rather, who he has become in light of his fairly recent marriage to the Survivor Star turned Playboy Pictorial Subject turned Major League Pitcher Softner.

  104. bigmyc says:

    Tug, just when I’ve thought you’ve lost your ever Fightin mind, you go and prove me wrong.

    That line about sums it up about Cole and our phrustrations with him.

  105. Shay Roddy says:

    Cremation would definitely be the best course of action. They could scatter his ashes across the outfield bleachers to honor everywhere a opponent homerun ball landed.

  106. Will says:

    I see the point about character but the same thing happened with Joba. The entire second half when Joba struggled he kept saying he was pitching good, hitting his locations, etc. He obviously wasnt and it began to get a little old. Maybe its entitlement, maybe its maturity, the matter of fact is that there is still potential and while its hard to sit through and watch you have to keep in mind that good pitchers take years to develop.

  107. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Cole has to man up, his talent’s a whole lot better than his results. If he keeps goin’ the way he’s goin’, he might not have a long, successful career. It would be a shame to piss away your career just for your 15 minutes.

  108. Swift says:

    @Will: I really appreciate the fact that you aren’t stopping by our website to troll, and generally act like an ass. We generally just ignore those people.

  109. RicoBrogna says:

    We know cole sucked balls but the offense has to take the blame too. Howard Rollins Victorino and Ibanez didn’t do shit last night and werth was the only one not swinging at pitches in the dirt. Three solo home runs, a sac fly and a bases loaded walk isnt enough to beat this yankees lineup. The bats better wake up or this series is over.

  110. Luis A. Rosado says:

    40-17, NYG sucks

  111. alex says:

    Yanks in 5, ummm i do believe the giants just got their teeth smashed out from there mouth…..

  112. alex says:

    *their

  113. stealth says:

    funny how rr and wanks in 5 are no where to be found after a yankee or now.. a giants loss..how typical

  114. alex says:

    they’re all high off their homeade drugs

  115. Luis A. Rosado says:

    DeSean Jackson rules

  116. Griswold says:

    I’m sure Jimmy, Shane, Ryan, and Raul have been doing ALOT of thinking during the past 16 hours or so. I predict that the bats come alive tonight and back a solid effort by Broseph Blanton

  117. Bob says:

    anyone know why that section in the second deck near the foul pole is always empty for the playoffs? it was like that last year too…Is it the visiting team section?

  118. stealth says:

    It’s uncharacteristic of this team to be pressing so hard..especially after a 3-0 lead. It’s almost as if they want to send a statement to the Yankees that.. yes we are a hard hitting club and can put a lot of runs up instead of just playing the game and waiting for it. They did it to both the Rockies and the Dodgers coming back late to win the game. I feel confident in Joe Blanton tonight. He had a pretty good year but will give up some runs so it is imperative that the Phils score first and score big against C.C. We need to tie this thing up tonight and get back to how we were playing in the first two series.

  119. dlhunter says:

    Breaking news, gang. Luis A. Rosado is our starter for game 5.

  120. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Nice to hear from you dlhunter. Long time no speak. Any more snide remarks?

  121. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Please, keep the masses entertained.

  122. Luis A. Rosado says:

    At least I put my name out there.

  123. RR says:

    I am still a retard and the Giants suck

  124. Cole Hamels' sweatjacket says:

    The Phils will win tonight and win the World Series…but Shane Victorino may miss his wedding

  125. theoldsport says:

    @ Bob

    Theat part of the second level makes up the auxiliary press box. It looks empty because I think they run table tops and equipment across, but that’s where they put media after the regular press box fills up.

  126. Phylan says:

    All you idiots who want to get rid of Hamels disgust me. I half-hope Ruben Amaro has an accident and becomes brain-damaged enough to agree with you and deal a 25 year old with an incredible fastball-changeup combination who is locked up through 2011 with single digits each year. Then next year when his BABIP and HR/FB ratio regresses and he bounces back you can all bash your computers in despair about how horribly fucking wrong you are and I won’t have to read your terrible posts anymore.

  127. Phylan says:

    Oh and if you think it’s the TV commercials and sponsorships that are somehow causing his rough 2009 then you should probably start watching soap operas instead of baseball.

  128. Phylan says:

    Also Charlie is an idiot for a) not starting Cliff tonight and then in game 7 and b) pinch hitting Eric Burntlett in any situation ever

    OK That’s all I got

  129. will.H says:

    phlyan, eric bruntlett should pinch hit to lead off the game

  130. Tug Haines says:

    Hey Phylan, you’re right that he’s a good pitcher, but he’s a fucking jagoff and I hope he dies from choking on his dog’s dick.

  131. Pete D says:

    I wonder why I took the time to read all the bullshit comments from two new york assholes in this comments thread. I love blogs like the fightins that give us great info, humor and perspective but one of the negatives of the medium is total fags like rr and yanks in 5. You left 30 comments in an opposing teams blog after a 3rd game win- you are so fuckin cool.

    I know I won’t get that 5 minutes of my life back, but a W tonight would do the trick. 7 strong from blants is the hope- although Texiera and A-Roid hit him well in the past. LETS GO PHILS

  132. Phylan says:

    I know it’s lame to hear that after a rough outing, but I think it sounds a lot worse than what he was actually saying. He just has had a bad year and he’s obviously upset about it. It’s not like he want to give up on game 7 or anything. Here in Philly we tend to make a big hairy deal about stuff people say in the locker room and I really don’t care about any of that.

  133. bigmyc says:

    Phylan, go back and take some more diuretics and relax on the sofa. Do you ever R.E.A.D. any of what you don’t agree with in a knee jerk moment?

    It’s not the poor performances.
    It’s not the failure to live up to his potential this year.
    It’s not the endorsements.
    It’s not the vapid way he pushes those endorsements.
    It’s not the shilling of Heidi’s (and his) special causes.
    It’s not the glossy pictorial hoywdy towydy magazine spreads.
    It’s not (necessarily) the time he stuck a lap dog in a book bag and went to the fireworks show.

    It IS, however, the fact that this guy has gone maddeningly soft. Now, even if you weren’t referring to one of my posts, I’ll still defend those whose posts you were attacking since it’s clear you haven’t understood the crux of their aggravation. What kind of supposed Ace says what he said last night about the situation that he said it about?

    I don’t give a fuck if he is being honest with himself, the phans, the city, MLB, his team mates, his wife, his GOD, his chiropractitioner, his wife’s little shitty dog, Cholly or Zack Efron!

    At least try to show your team mates and the phans that back you ever so begrudgingly with every mediocre and non-committed start that you actually care about how the team fares instead of how you feel.

    Phylan, I don’t doubt that you understand the complexities of baseball, but I am not so sure you understand what it means to Carpe Diem.

  134. Tug Haines says:

    Cole will have a few months to get a good 3rd and 4th pitch.

    I’ll still hate him, for the record.

    I don’t mind eating crow as long as it’s seasoned properly.

  135. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Cole does look a little like Zac Efron

  136. OutlawPete says:

    ***LIVE BLOG ALERT***

    ok folks, you know the deal. click on my name, then click, “click here”

    Let’s do this

  137. Luis A. Rosado says:

    OutlawPete, am I invited?

  138. Argive says:

    “What kind of supposed Ace says what he said last night about the situation that he said it about?”

    One who is quite young and still has a long way to go in terms of professional development and maturity. Look, we all know what Hamels is capable of. He’s locked up for another two years and he has remarkable ability. Let’s not go overboard because he said some dumb things in one of those practically meaningless postgame interviews. He will be fine, and if the Phillies are stupid enough to trade him, then they will have shot themselves in the foot.

  139. OutlawPete says:

    yes Luis if you behave

  140. Luis A. Rosado says:

    I will Pete

  141. Shay Roddy says:

    If you guys can manage two game chats at once, I got one runnin’ too. Just click my name then the graphic.

  142. OutlawPete says:

    then you may attend Luis

  143. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Thanks, Pete

  144. Mike P says:

    Cole is 25 years old. Give him a break. He’s going to go on to have a wonderful career, especially if he can build some additional secondary pitches around that dynamic changeup.

    I wonder if anyone has taken a really close look at his arm angle. I feel like his fastball doesn’t come in at as hard of an angle as it did last year, but maybe I’m wrong.

    GO PHILS!!!!

  145. MoyerIsMyHero says:

    Pete, you banned me instead! I was posting as Yanks in 5 when you did it!!

  146. MoyerIsMyHero says:

    Dummies, check the blog!

  147. MoyerIsMyHero says:

    Come on, someone even said it was me!

  148. Lynniemac says:

    Swift, I didn’t shoot myself. No clue what happened.

  149. crunchy says:

    Fuck you, Frillies. We’re taking this one, too. Bwa-ha-ha!

  150. Jon Weeks Booth says:

    PEDRO FELIZ JUST MURDERED A BASEBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  151. Swift says:

    Liveblog at Outlaw Pete’s isn’t working for me anymore… so I’ll chill here.

    Pedro Fucking Feliz!

  152. jimmy james says:

    Brad Lidge. Brad Lidge. In a tie game.

    I feel like crying

  153. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Pete’s blog is working for me either

  154. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Feliz is owning the night

  155. Luis A. Rosado says:

    *is not working

  156. NickJames says:

    isn’t working for me either..thought i was going crazy

  157. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Let’s go Brad

  158. NickJames says:

    I’m FEELING lidge

  159. NickJames says:

    Who feels a Matt Stairs walkoff?

  160. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Broxton still shits himself thinking about it

  161. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Jeter can sit his ass down because Lidge just struck him out

  162. NickJames says:

    SIT DOWN

  163. Jon Weeks Booth says:

    Swift> You too? I thought I was banned/modded. Then again, Pete was getting trigger-happy with that banhammer.

    Lidge is fucking amazing tonight. Can you feel that momentum shifting?

  164. OutlawPete says:

    i didnt ban you guys wth. keep trying. dont blame me

  165. Swift says:

    That Slider is looking good… c’mon Lidge, one more.

  166. NickJames says:

    Phil Coke???

  167. Lynniemac says:

    Pete, was I a victim of a glitch? If so, that’s cool, it happens; but if I offended, I’d like the chance to apologize.

  168. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Coke snorts Coke

  169. OutlawPete says:

    idk lynnie but everyone else is back. i guess ur not trying to get back in or somethin

  170. Luis A. Rosado says:

    wth! someone cover third

  171. Lynniemac says:

    No, Pete. I tried for a while then gave up because I didn’t know what the problem was.

  172. dlhunter says:

    Dear God,
    What did I do to you?

    Sincerely,
    Your 2009 Philadelphia Phillies

  173. kcm says:

    And the awful pitching of Brad Lidge continues.

  174. Jon Weeks Booth says:

    “Lidge to Nowhere” Is a suitable headline for tomorrow.

  175. Swift says:

    @kcm: More accurately, it returns.

    @dlhunter: I haven’t a clue, but we must’ve done something truly horrible.

  176. Del says:

    Stellar management by Charlie. Think you would have pulled him after the 1st run and men on the corners.

  177. Yanks in 5 says:

    HEARTBREAK LIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    A-ROD comes through in the clutch!!!!!!

  178. Swift says:

    Well… we’re offically fucked everyone. 2008 was nice, but 2009 was not meant to be. Who knows what 2010 holds in store.

  179. Luis A. Rosado says:

    This ship’s sinking fast

  180. Yanks in 5 says:

    BALLGAME OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WORLD SERIES OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE YANKEES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How did you like the game, Outlaw Pete? LOL

  181. dlhunter says:

    Can we call the ghostbusters on the trolls?

  182. Tony Is Dynamic says:

    Can we please IP ban Yanks in 5?

    Please?

  183. Andrea says:

    Fuck you very much Phillies. Pathetic. I’m gutted.

  184. T-Bags Big Bouncy Man Boobs says:

    I refuse to ever EVER EVER watch Brad Lidge pitch again. I won’t do it. The TV will go off and I won’t give a shit what happens to the Phils.

  185. Yankes in 5 says:

    I like to suck my fathers cock, while my mother urinates on my face. All Yankees fans do. We’re from New York, and we do stuff like that. Oh… and baseball, right… hahah, I forgot about that. See we don’t really care about baseball in New York. We act like it, because, well… it keeps us from thinking about how horribly shitty our city is.

  186. Luis A. Rosado says:

    I’m too young for this

  187. MoyerIsMyHero says:

    Yanks in 5, no matter how many games the Yankees win, you still lose at life.

  188. Swift says:

    Could be worse though… we could be Mets fans.

    ;)

  189. Yanks in 5 says:

    I’m drinking up the tears of Phillies fans.

    Just be lucky you won a title last season without facing the Yankees. The Phillies just made A-Rod a Yankee legend!

  190. JB says:

    We should have known two in a row was too much to ask.

  191. Swift says:

    @Yanks in 5: No, steroids did that already.

  192. Luis A. Rosado says:

    the Phils will never get to the Mets level

  193. MoyerIsMyHero says:

    Seriously, if I ever found myself so lacking in self-worth that I was doing what you do, I would kill myself.

  194. Yanks in 5 says:

    Older Phillies fans, does it feel like 1983?

  195. Luis A. Rosado says:

    The entire 2000 Yankee team was on the roids

  196. Luis A. Rosado says:

    1999, 1998 also had roiders

  197. Andrea says:

    @Yanks in 5:

    Put a gun in your mouth and shoot it.

  198. crunchy says:

    Bitching about steroids? Fucking losers! Yankees in five!

  199. blown save brad says:

    Leave it to Lidge to ruin everything.

  200. Yanks in 5 says:

    And just like that, the prices for game 5 are dropping on stubhub. I have to figure out a way to smuggle in a bottle of the champagne for tomorrow night.

  201. Andrea says:

    The loss cannot be solely on Lidge. Sure, it would be nice if he would know how to fucking a close a game again, but we should have had more runs tonight. The hitting was pathetic, just like it has been.

  202. Yanks in 5 says:

    Andrea: Start spreading the news!

  203. Luis A. Rosado says:

    This game had nothing but bloopers

  204. Stealth says:

    Are you kidding me?..we tie the game…top of the 9th with a chance to win this thing…two outs and Lidge gives up three runs….are you f-ing kidding me? thanks Lidge..just when everyone was forgetting about the horrible year you had.. you quickly reminded us. Thanks a lot man. Thanks for stepping up when we (your team) needed you the most. I hope you are sitting in a corner tonight thinking about how you really screwed this up. This one stings.

  205. Tony Is Dynamic says:

    Seriously? Can we PLEASE IP ban?

  206. Scott says:

    We’re headed to the cellar next season. Only 1 frontline starter with Lee, no closer, and mediocre hitting against lefthanded pitching.

  207. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Ibanez, Rollins, and Howard are pissing me off

  208. blown save brad says:

    i want to see more moyer out there

  209. Yanks in 5 says:

    This is what happens when you step up and play the varsity.

  210. Andrea says:

    I guess Cole will get his wish very very soon.

  211. Andrea says:

    Where was your “Varsity” last year? Yeah. Shut the fuck up.

  212. Ian says:

    Yanks in 5 thinks that success is trolling on a blog for another team. Apparently the Rays, who WON THE AL EAST LAST YEAR, aren’t “varsity.”

    by the way, did anyone else get the feeling that the home plate ump was flat out guessing tonight?

  213. Phils Phan says:

    @ Yanks in 5:

    If you’re going to use a quote, provide a citation.

  214. Luis A. Rosado says:

    @Yanks in 5, after spending all that money, Yankees finally got it right

  215. Luis A. Rosado says:

    easy to talk Yanks in 5

  216. Stealth says:

    And why did’nt we start Lee tonight? If this series did go to seven he would have had three days rest for that too. Since we really can’t rely on anyone else…why not our true ace. I know he wanted to get out there and could have. I dont know folks but this might have been a mistake that will come back and bite uncle Cholly in the ass

  217. Yanks in 5 says:

    Andrea: I know you’re upset, but just face facts. The Yankees are the better team. It’s OK to admit it. They won 103 games in the AL, the better league. Just feel fortunate the Phillies played Tampa last season and not the NEW YORK YANKEES!

  218. Phils Phan says:

    @ Andrea:

    Relax, kid. A troll is a troll is a troll. When you find yourself getting mad, imagine how pathetic his life is–masturbating to a photograph of Alex Rodriguez as a centaur.

  219. Yanks in 5 says:

    Mr October, Reggie Jackson, said the Phillies are now facing the Varsity. Guess he was right.

    Does Jimmy Rollins have anymore predictions?

  220. JB says:

    I don’t see how starting Lee changes anything. If we’re acting like he’s a guaranteed W, we’d still be down 3-2 going into game 6 because its entirely likely Blanton would lose Game 5.

  221. Andrea says:

    Phils Phan:

    Yeah. You’re right. I’m wasting my time really lol. I’m off.

  222. Luis A. Rosado says:

    Reggie Jackson sucks cock

  223. Nick says:

    It’s ok guys. They only needed to outbid the entire MLB combined in order to get the top 3 free agents in baseball, and 2(+?) guys on steroids to BARELY beat us. Now if we had a salary cap (and I know just a basic salary cap is not the solution) of say… 110 or 120 million, who would the Yankees have to drop in order to make it?

  224. Yanks in 5 says:

    A fun fact. The Yankees are now 4-0 in World Series games in Philadelphia

  225. The chief says:

    Reggie Jackson sucks Joe Dimaggio’s cock, while Lou Gehrig tosses his salad.

  226. gettinitdone says:

    yanks in 5: i know you’re a douchebag who has no friends but just face the facts. your steroid ridden team disgusts the rest of the world and the baseball gods will not let you win this world series. go fuck yourself. just feel fortunate that the yankees can spend billions and billions of dollars but still be the trash of mlb.

    ps- you’re prob a closet mets fan who has ADD & should be seeing a shrink

    lee can bring this around…remember the yanks train wreck WS before with 3-1…

  227. YANKSSSS! says:

    LETS GO YANKEES!!! Yankees in 5. We doing it for the trash talking scrub rollins.

  228. Luis A. Rosado says:

    How do you spend over a quarter of a billion dollars on 3 players?

  229. Stealth says:

    I say that because he is the only solid pitcher we have right now..to at least tie the series..then who knows..it definitely would be a momentum shifter and given the team confidence. Especially after the performance the other night.

  230. Yanks in 5 says:

    Is Outlaw Pete going to show up?

    Burnett and Champagne tomorrow night!

  231. Yanks in 5 says:

    I finger my butthole at night and pretend it’s Melky Cabrera’s dongle.

  232. Yanks in 5 says:

    My father raped me as a child, but it’s okay because he had on a Babe Ruth jersey.

  233. JB says:

    Yanks in 5, stop talking about last season. Stop belittling the team that won the AL East last year when your Yankees, your vaunted “varsity,” weren’t playing in October because they were too inept to get past the Sox and the Rays.

  234. Luis A. Rosado says:

    I bet Mickey Mantle screwed Roger Maris up the ass

  235. Yanks in 5 says:

    I spend my time harassing people on other teams’ blogs because I have no friends and want to be acknowledged.

  236. Yanks in 5 says:

    I have an inflatable sex doll with a picture of Derek Jeter taped to its head that I hug every night.

  237. Luis A. Rosado says:

    I hope George Steinbrenner gets a heart attack

  238. Yanks in 5 says:

    I stick paper clips into my urethra and pretend I’m getting fucked by George Steinbrenner.

  239. Yanks in 5 says:

    I lost my virginity in New Yankee Stadium to myself.

  240. Stealth says:

    Maybe Lidge can call Mitch Williams and ask him how he got through it.

  241. Luis A. Rosado says:

    @Yanks in 5, stop jacking off the 2009 Yankees team photo

  242. greenman! says:

    I dunno Lidge was on tonight. I liked what I saw out of his pitching but the whole mental error of letting the runner get on 3rd was just inexcusable. I actually want to blame Charlie for not pulling him. If Lidge cant throw anything but fastballs to A-roid then we were screwed. Bottom line is they should have had faith and went with the pitch that Derrick fucking Jeter couldnt hit. Instead you throw a shitty ass pitch to that jerkoff A-Roid. Way to Manage Charlie.

  243. gettinitdone says:

    just be a centaur and then go kill yourself

    lee will bring it back..its not over yet

  244. gettinitdone says:

    we are a come from behind team

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