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Jul
07
2011
Dom Brown misses 2nd base, accepts responsibility for loss
Posted by meech.one at 9:16 am ET 30 Comments

The Phillies lost 7-6 on a Mike Stanton walkoff homer in the bottom of the 10th inning last night, but if it weren’t for the mistakes of young Dom Brown, extra innings probably wouldn’t have been necessary.

With the Phillies leading 4-0 in the bottom of the 3rd inning, the Marlins lone All-Star representative Gaby Sanchez roped a 2-out, 0-1 pitch from Kyle Kendrick into the gap in right-center. Dom Brown got to the ball in time to cut it off, but tried planting awkwardly and let the ball get by him and roll to the wall allowing both Anibal Sanchez and Emilio Bonifacio to score and Gaby to reach third base. The next batter, Hanley Ramirez, wound up reaching on an infield single and Sanchez scored cutting the lead to 4-3.

Then in the 6th inning came Dom’s costliest mistake of the night, when his would-be triple was erased when 2B umpire Kerwin Danley contended that Dom missed 2nd base when he stutter-stepped trying to touch the corner of the bag on his way to third. Charlie Manuel came out to argue (to no avail), and one batter later, John Mayberry, Jr. connected on his 2nd HR of the night which would’ve scored Brown.

That mature-beyond-his-years Dom Brown took full responsibility for the loss after the game, saying he knew he missed the bag, and his aggressiveness not only cost the team a run, but most likely a win.

CSN’s John R. Finger got the quotes:

“I did not,” Brown said when asked if he touched the base. “I just got to go back and take the double. I don’t know what I was thinking about there – too aggressive, I guess. Right there it cost us the game. You live and learn. That’s all I can say.”

“I’m always shooting for that inside part of the bag,” Brown said. “I got to go back. I was moving so fast and trying to get to third, but I have to go back.”

I may be a bit biased, but I can’t stay mad at the kid after that. After all, the Marlins were on the receiving end of a couple bad calls on Tuesday night which Jack McKeon said cost them a win, so I guess it all evens out.

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30 Responses to “Dom Brown misses 2nd base, accepts responsibility for loss”

  1. The kid will learn. That’s two mental errors as he is being groomed still for everyday duty. What about that Chase Utley belly flop?

  2. fumphis says:

    Durrr. It’s ridiculous to say it cost them a run. Why would Dunn (?) throw the exact same pitch to Mayberry with a guy on third and no out as he would with nobody on and one out? And why would Mayberry have the same approach at the plate as he would have? Obviously Brown made a mistake, but there’s just no reason to think that if he’d been safe at third Mayberry would have homered. You’d be rolling the dice all over again with Mayberry’s at bat–he could have struck out, or sacced Brown home, or anything.

  3. The umpire crew for the entire series were awful. I’ve never seen so many bad… no, make that wrong calls over the course of three games by the same blind morons.
    Worley clearly missed the tag.
    Brown was clearly out at the plate.
    Utley was safe at first.
    Peterson trapped that ball on a bounce.
    Brown absolutely touched second.

  4. The Howling Fantods says:

    Despite what he says, I still think he touched the base. I’m probably just in denial, though, but everything happens so fast that he might have clipped the end of the bag without noticing it.

    The ump definitely had a bad angle on it, and even if he didn’t tag, it was close enough that the ump wouldn’t be able to tell from that angle at that speed.

  5. Matty P. says:

    it shouldn’t have even been an issue. There was not even a play at 3rd base. Whether he touched the bag or not, he didnt go out of the baseline to make his path to 3rd base shorter. His foot came close enough to the bag ( i think he touched it and he’s being mature and accepting the umpire’s call) that it should have been accepted that he touched it. It’s like a close double play when the SS or 2nd baseman doesn’t really have the ball in his glove when he touches 2nd and throws to 1st. happens to often but umps give them the benefit of the doubt. Same should have applied here.

    • Joe D says:

      Well said. And I am in complete agreement. I still don’t think he even missed the bag. I really don’t. But kudos to Dom for manning up about the whole thing. I think the Marlins only appealed the play because they knew Danley was at 2nd and he put on a clinic all series of ineptitude. So the Marlins thought “why not try?” They tried and Danley was dumb enough to pull the trigger. If you set a precedent for poor umpiring teams are going to exploit it at any given chance.

    • KGAr0y says:

      The scenario you are comparing last night’s plat to (a second baseman or shortstop around the bag) is known as the “general are rule.” While this is not an actual rule, its a nuance of the game that has been put in place to protect fielders from getting spiked and injured around the second base bag. Umpires will only apply this to the second base bag and fielders. I do believe however that Dom Brown may have hit the bag on that play and Kerwin Danley, or as I like to call him; Mr. Manatee, was simply out of position to make the call. In that situation you have to give the runner the benefit of the doubt. Chances are Dome Brown’s lack of veteran status went against him here, if that had been Chase Utley rounding the bases, he probably would not have made the same call. In all honesty though, the loss falls on the bullpen for not being able to hold a lead against a team that literally forgot how to win since the last time they played.

    • DAVE says:

      Sorry dude, but this absolutely should be an issue. The rule states pretty explicitly that you have to touch the base in order to move on to the next one. I get the argument here and the comparison to the neighborhood rule or whatever its called in the double play situation, but that stipulation just doesn’t exist when it comes to running the bases. You gotta touch all of them, or it doesn’t count. One of the things people practice in baseball is running bases in such a way that you touch the base without breaking stride. If he didn’t do that then he’s out. It’s frustrating that it happened to our guy but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be an issue. If we’re not gonna make guys actually touch the bases why not just say “yeah but he pretty much caught the ball before he dropped it so he should just be out”? You can’t just bend the rules however you want so that the Phillies win. And most of the time, you don’t have to, cause this team is fucking awesome.

    • The Burrell Shuffle says:

      screw that. i dont want “gimmies”. if his foot missed the bag, which i don’t think it did, and he doesnt go back, he’s out. period. regardless of situation, score, or game.

      i hate umps that assume a ss/2b touches 2b on a DB just b/c his feet were near the bag when he caught, pivoted, and threw to 1st. if his foot never touched the bag when he had possession of the ball, the runner is safe.

  6. Phylan says:

    Those 3 frames make it pretty much a quantum matter. Maybe some electrons from Dom Brown’s shoe came within a few Planck lengths of the electrons on the base but even observing that may have altered the outcome.

    I still fucking hate Kerwin Danley’s dumb face though

  7. Joe D says:

    Mr. Manatee….fantastic. I will be using this.

  8. dude... says:

    @7 Observing it didn’t alter the outcome, it just collapsed the quantum wavefront of possibilities into the observed outcome, or the perceived observed outcome that Danley thought he saw. Until the observation, Brown’s foot, or more likely some quantum particle of it, was just as likely to phase through the bag as touch it or not, according to the Copenhagen Interpretation. Danley offered a new Miami Interpretation last night, which, having observed an event and collapsed the wavefront of possibilities, he then blew the call. Which is a giant F You to physics and Phillies fans everywhere.

    • Phylan says:

      I am a Many Worlds interpretation kind of guy, and as such am certain there is a universe out there where Brown touched the bag and the Phillies won, and in which Kerwin Danley was impaled by a stray piece of fecal matter that survived reentry after being improperly ejected from the International Space Station.

    • Howard Wolowitz says:

      Sheldon? Is that you? You know I designed that toilet system on the space station. Just because it had one minor malfunction you needn’t belittle my work here.

    • Rajesh Koothrappali says:

      No that wasn’t condescending enough to be Sheldon… more likely it was Leonard.

  9. mgoss79 says:

    Kerwin Danley and Joe West are the worst umps in the league. They are like the T-Mac and Sarge of umpiring. Like

  10. The Vanimal says:

    I like Dom a lot, but the kid needs to get his head into the game. Good, they fixed his bat, what about his fielding/every other aspect of his game? I know he’s a rookie, but a lot of rookies making these kind of mistakes would have a guy ready to snag his spot for a good amount of time. He’s benefiting from a collection of 3 bad OF’s behind him. He’ll be really really good at some point, but these growing pains suck.

    • Phylan says:

      I don’t think he’s benefiting from the other bad outfielders. There is no team in the league that would have both a player with Dom’s potential and a player BEHIND him that had the same or better potential, or enough to justify benching the first. The bottom line is that he’s 23 years old, and even the super prospects don’t light the world on fire right away, outside of the Buster Poseys and what not. He’s proven that minor league pitching is not a significant challenge for him, at any level. He has to complete the remainder of his growth at the major league level, and that requires a full-time role. Guys as young as Dom require patience. Philadelphia media/fandom are absurdly quick to play the “head’s not right” card and the temptation must be resisted here. These are the usual bits of spit and polish that young guys need to learn.

    • mgoss79 says:

      He had one instance where he didn’t hustle out a ground ball and everyone got on his ass. He’s been full bore on the base paths since then and last night he just got a little too aggressive rounding second. In the field, he just has to learn how to read the ball better and take better routes to the ball. I’m sure that they are working on that with him and it’s something that he’ll get better at over time.
      He also got called up amid a TON of expectations and as much as Werth got overpaid in DC, Brown has big shoes to fill. He wasn’t some no name rookie when he got called up last year. Even Howard, Rollins, etc didn’t have the amount of expectations on them that Brown did. I’m sure some of that is weighing on him a bit and he’s trying a little too hard to meet those expectations.

    • The Vanimal says:

      You’re right, I’ve never seen a highly thought of rookie perform poorly and sit a year out due to a younger player on a good streak or a slumping veteran getting his groove back *eyeroll* I’m in no way complaining about his bat, I see that it’s there and I’m sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for it to catch fire. I’m concerned, as anyone should be, with his fielding in his developing years. There’s obviously nothing to complain about with his bat, as it got him to the majors despite his lackluster fielding. I complain about it now, because it’s obviously currently a concern, and one that I feel shouldn’t be quickly written off as “ah, he’s just a rookie.” He’s also a grown man that made his way through one of the best organizations in baseball. If Dominic thought that way, the end result wouldn’t be the best result.

      I’m hopeful that the improvement in the field and on the base pads will come, and I believe they will but until he proves himself in some way I feel I have the right to be skeptical. I’m just a skeptic that wants to be proven wrong.

    • mgoss79 says:

      It does seem like he’s never played OF at times when he’s out there. It’s almost as if his depth perception is an issue when the ball first comes off the bat. I’m sure they’re working with him though. Look at how far Howard has come in his fielding. He isn’t going to win a Gold Glove any time soon but he’s leaps and bounds further than where he was. Dom Brown reminds me of Shaq as Neon Boudeaux in Blue Chips – raw unpolished talent that just needs some coaching and hard work (and some extra help on his SATs)

    • Fan since this April says:

      You’re right Vandamanal this Brown kid sucks they should be playing Martinez out there he knows how to hit triples right.

  11. Joe D says:

    The only way for Domonic to improve upon his fielding is to play more and that is what he is doing now. And I have no doubts he will put the work in to right himself out there. He has already shown a willingness to learn and make changes with his swing so he will definitely do the same in the field. And if you look at the progress he has made with the bat in a short period of time it’s pretty damn impressive. I wish I made note of when he started to eliminate the leg kick from his swing for the toe-tap timing mechanism because since that point I believe he has this 6-game hitting streak he is on. He showed up early to the yard to study Beckett in the Boston series. This kid wants to succeed. If anything he is probably too hungry right now and he is jittering himself into some mistakes. But believe me I’d rather watch his mistakes than Ben Francisco throwing 26 hoppers to the plate and popping up on balls right down the dick. The kid is a special talent. He isn’t going to iron himself out in just 40 games of big league experience. I don’t even count last season as helping him because he rotted on the bench so often.

  12. Joe Pa says:

    BEAT DA FUCKING BRAVES!

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